On 04/26/2018 05:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 04/27/18 08:29, Rick Stevens wrote: >> On 04/26/2018 12:54 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: >>> On 04/26/2018 12:14 PM, stan wrote: >>>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:05:28 -0700 >>>> Samuel Sieb <samuel@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> I think the majority opinion now is that logging in as the root user >>>>> is discouraged. In almost all cases sudo is sufficient and if you >>>>> need to do root things for a while, just use "sudo -i". For remote >>>>> access as root, use keys. >>>> I guess I hold the minority opinion, but that's OK. Linux is all about >>>> choice, and the more the better. >>> I'm curious what you find you need to use a root login for. I used to >>> use that all the time, but gradually I switched over and on my desktop >>> system, it is extremely rare that I use it. (I think only when the >>> graphical display is messed up and I have to switch to a console to fix >>> it.) The places I do use a root login are for remote admin, either >>> servers or remote laptops and computer that I administer. And in almost >>> all cases, the root account is accessed using ssh with keys, no passwords. >> You need to be root to install software (e.g. dnf), start processes that >> use network ports <= 1024, manage disks, mount remote filesystems and >> many, many other things an active sysadmin has to do. > > Sam did say "root login". Yes you need to be running a process "as root" which sudo > provides but you need not "login" as root to do what you've mentioned. > > FWIW, I never have the need to login as root from the graphical interface. But I do, > at times, have the need to issue a series of commands from the command line as root. > In those cases sudo is cumbersome. So, I will use "su -". So, no matter what the > default is I will be giving root a pw. :-) :-) Yup, as do I. I typically have at least one terminal open on my desktop that's used for CLI-based stuff--either root (via "su -") or as my mortal (and utterly awesome and loveable) self. ;) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - If it's stupid and it works...it ain't stupid! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx