On 04/06/2018 05:57 PM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: > On 07/04/18 10:02, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 04/07/18 07:03, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: >>> On 04/04/18 13:21, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: >>>> I have been using VirtualBox for a long while. Looking at what rpms >>>> are available >>>> I see: >>>> >>>> $ dnf list '*VirtualBox*' >>>> Last metadata expiration check: 19 days, 23:03:27 ago on Thu Mar 15 >>>> 14:29:34 2018. >>>> Installed Packages >>>> VirtualBox-5.2.x86_64 5.2.8_121009_fedora26-1 >>>> @virtualbox >>>> Available Packages >>>> VirtualBox.x86_64 5.2.6-2.fc26 >>>> rpmfusion-free-updates >>>> VirtualBox-5.1.x86_64 5.1.34_121010_fedora26-1 >>>> virtualbox >>>> VirtualBox-devel.i686 5.2.6-2.fc26 >>>> rpmfusion-free-updates >>>> VirtualBox-devel.x86_64 5.2.6-2.fc26 >>>> rpmfusion-free-updates >>>> VirtualBox-guest-additions.x86_64 5.2.6-2.fc26 >>>> rpmfusion-free-updates >>>> VirtualBox-kmodsrc.x86_64 5.1.22-1.fc26 >>>> rpmfusion-free >>>> VirtualBox-kmodsrc.noarch 5.2.6-2.fc26 >>>> rpmfusion-free-updates >>>> VirtualBox-server.x86_64 5.2.6-2.fc26 >>>> rpmfusion-free-updates >>>> VirtualBox-webservice.x86_64 5.2.6-2.fc26 >>>> rpmfusion-free-updates >>>> akmod-VirtualBox.x86_64 5.2.6-2.fc26 >>>> rpmfusion-free-updates >>>> kmod-VirtualBox.x86_64 5.2.6-2.fc26 >>>> rpmfusion-free-updates >>>> python-VirtualBox.x86_64 5.2.6-2.fc26 >>>> rpmfusion-free-updates >>>> >>>> Which repo [virtualbox (Oracle) or rpmfusion] should one use? >>>> Is Oracle simply a more up-to-date repo? Does rpmfusion packages >>>> actually fetch >>>> the Oracle rpm, or is rpmfusion a separate, full build? >>>> >>>> The size difference is significant: >>>> rpmfusion VirtualBox-5.2.8-2.fc26.x86_64.rpm 8.1MB >>>> virtualbox >>>> VirtualBox-5.2-5.2.8_121009_fedora26-1.x86_64.rpm 69 MB >>>> >>>> If the two are different: if I change to use the rpmfusion repo, >>>> will the VMs be >>>> compatible? >>>> >>>> TIA >>> >>> Anyone? Should be an easy question for someone who knows? >> >> See https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Licensing_FAQ >> >> Since RPMFusion is using the VirtualBox name they would be required to >> follow the >> license. Specifically: >> >> "The term “VirtualBox” has been registered by Oracle as a trademark in >> various >> countries. If you choose to ship custom binaries and/or source code >> revisions of the >> product, you may not use the VirtualBox name in those versions." >> >> Therefore, RPMFusion has built their packages from Oracle's source and >> have decided >> to package things in multiple rpms as opposed to a single rpm like >> Oracle has done. >> They have also modified the way kernel modules are built when the >> kernel packages get >> updated. >> >> And, since they are using the VirtualBox name they must not have made >> any changes >> such that a VM created on their release would be incompatible with the >> Oracle release. >> >> So, using either one is fine and pretty much just a personal choice. > > Thanks. Looking at the huge difference in size between the two sources, > I wonder if > rpmfusion broke the single package from virtualbox into separate > packages. The size > still does not fully add up though. > > Does anyone know what is different between the two sources? I mean, why > would rpmfusion > put the effort for no added value? Maybe the virtualbox repo includes > fluff that rpmfusion > removed? > > $ sudo dnf install VirtualBox > ==================================================================================== > > Package Arch Version > Repository Size > ==================================================================================== > > Installing: > VirtualBox x86_64 5.2.8-2.fc26 > rpmfusion-free-updates 8.1 M > Installing dependencies: > VirtualBox-kmodsrc noarch 5.2.8-2.fc26 > rpmfusion-free-updates 801 k > VirtualBox-server x86_64 5.2.8-2.fc26 > rpmfusion-free-updates 15 M > akmod-VirtualBox x86_64 5.2.8-3.fc26 > rpmfusion-free-updates 31 k > akmods noarch 0.5.6-12.fc26 > updates 24 k > kmodtool noarch 1-24.fc26 > fedora 16 k > > Transaction Summary > ==================================================================================== > > Install 6 Packages > > Total download size: 24 M > Installed size: 66 M The additive sizes of all the rpmfusion packages may not match what the virtualbox repo offers because a) they are packaged differently; and b) there MAY be things rpmfusion doesn't include because inclusion in rpmfusion might violate a copyright or patent--and Fedora/Red Hat try really hard to NOT violate copyrights and patents. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - "Very funny, Scotty. 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