seems to me that some of the current dnf packages related to virtualization and containers could be adjusted and cleaned up, but i'm not sure against which component one would file a BZ issue against. first, the Virtualization group: $ dnf group info virtualization Last metadata expiration check: 0:18:41 ago on Fri 06 Apr 2018 05:18:28 AM EDT. Group: Virtualization Description: These packages provide a graphical virtualization environment. Mandatory Packages: virt-install Default Packages: libvirt-daemon-config-network libvirt-daemon-kvm qemu-kvm virt-manager virt-viewer Optional Packages: guestfs-browser libguestfs-tools libvirt-client python-libguestfs virt-top $ i'm still perusing that group to convince myself that its contents really reflects what is required for "virtualization" on fedora -- it's possible that there are newer packages that should be included, but i'm still poring over it. next, the "container-management" package seems awfully docker-centric: $ dnf group info container-management Last metadata expiration check: 0:21:50 ago on Fri 06 Apr 2018 05:18:28 AM EDT. Group: Container Management Description: Tools for managing Linux containers Mandatory Packages: cockpit-docker docker Optional Packages: docker-registry fedora-dockerfiles $ more to the point, these days, it should incorporate the "docker-ce" package, not "docker", yes? (and i vaguely recall from somewhere that the fedora-dockerfiles package was not terribly up to date.) anyway, given container technologies other than docker, it seems that that group name is a bit misleading. and if one can have a package group devoted to docker, one imagines it would be appropriate to have one dedicated to, say, kubernetes as well, but there isn't one. anyway, it just seems like there could be a refactoring of a number of package groups to make them more consistent and current. thoughts? rday _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx