Re: HYPERKITTY does not show messages parts being addressed in replies.

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Hi Bill,

home user wrote:
> Some of you have neat sayings beneath your signature.  A
> good one in this thread is "Conjecture is just a
> conclusion based on incomplete information. It isn't a
> fact.".
> 
> I'm seeing comments implying that messages from
> yahoo-based member accounts are not reaching members with
> gmail-based member accounts.  I'm wondering if this might
> be one of those conjectures based on incomplete
> information.  Has anyone actually tried to diagnose the
> problem?

Unfortunately, it is not conjecture. :(

> Are the messages disappearing because
> - I use HYPERKITTY to post them?
> - my account is based on a yahoo e-mail address?
> - your account is based on a gmail e-mail address?
> - something else?
> (I realize there could be more than one cause.)

It's primarily because your address is @yahoo.com.  In 2014,
Yahoo began using an agressive DMARC setting with a policy
to reject all yahoo.com mail that fails DMARC.  Not all
domains which recieve mail respect this, but Gmail is one
that does.  That's why list messages from @yahoo.com
addresses don't reach users @gmail.com.

I am not familiar enough with DMARC and Mailman3 to know
whether there are any work-arounds available for this issue
or not.  There aren't any great solutions to it, in any
case.  If someone knows differently it would be great if
they could reach out to the Fedora Infrastructure team with
details (ideally in the form of a patch ;) ).

    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure

If you want to read more about this issue, search the web
for something like: yahoo dmarc mailing lists

-- 
Todd
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Disobedience, n. The silver lining to the cloud of servitude.
    -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"

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