Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

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On Tue, 2018-03-06 at 08:55 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> do you consider the footer
> 
> users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> equally "unnecessary as bad weather"?

An unsubscribe address, if a robot responds it in a comprehensible
manner, can be a useful thing.

The mailing list address is virtually pointless.  That address is in
the headers that all mail clients show by default (to, from, subject,
date), it's the one you emailed to, it's the address the mail came
from, it's not some obscure thing buried within 100 lines of hidden
headers.  If you can't send a post to the list without use of that
address printed in the email, you don't deserve to own a computer.

But I've yet to see a mail client that will parse the headers and give
a useful summary of mailing list details that it finds in there.  All
mail clients that I've seen give you the option to hide all the
headers, or show ALL the headers.  That can include masses of headers. 
The message I'm replying to, now, had 127 lines.  I had to scroll half
way down to find these special list headers.

I really do not know what's so hard about setting the list to put just
*one* sane thing in the footer:  A web address for a landing page
specific to this mailing list.  Let that page have a description of the
list purpose, links to participation guidelines, links to FAQs, links
to archives, links to managing your subscription, etc.

Why is that so hard to do?
Why is that so hard to understand?

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Boilerplate:  All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is
no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages
posted to the mailing list.
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