On 03/06/18 09:30, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 08:55:09 +0800 > Ed Greshko <ed.greshko@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On 03/06/18 04:39, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: >>> I don't have a problem if you put the link to the archives a second >>> time prominently into some auto-generated list footer. Unnecessary >>> as bad weather, I believe, because are there really MUA's out there >>> nowadays, without the capability to display the mail-headers? But >>> again, I won't complain .. >> Since the headers >> >> List-Post: <mailto:users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> exist in each message do you consider the footer >> >> users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> equally "unnecessary as bad weather"? > No. But if we're already at it: A reminder in the footer to the mail > headers might be even more useful. Because there are a few more than > the mentioned two .. I doubt it, for several reasons. 1. Many people seem to miss or ignore the footer. Asking, "how do I unsubscribe". 2. Why point users to email headers and make them jump through additional hoops? Why invite the inevitable question "How to I display headers on "X" email client?"? 3. Displaying the headers in many email clients will show links....but they won't be clickable. Why force people to cut and paste? > > Really: I do not care much about what to put into the footer or not. Could have fooled me. :-) > > But perhaps it is a good idea to put all user-relevant information in > that very first welcome message from this list after subscribing to it: > I just had a look at the one I got: it was very short, and maybe one > could place a friendly reminder into that welcome message to the mail > headers sent out with each new message from this list. And maybe even a > friendly reminder to ask on this list *after* having put some > reasonable effort to find a solution by oneself. > Maybe a link to this page: > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html There once was a link to the Fedora Mailing List Guidelines which did (I've not looked at it in a long time) have a section on "how to ask good questions" and "what to do before posting". See reason #1 above for how well that worked out. :-) -- If simple questions can be answered with a simple google query then why are there so many of them?
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