Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

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On 03/02/2018 08:21 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2018-03-02 at 10:49 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 12:00:14PM +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>> Is there any other justification for it? And why do messages to this
>>> list no longer include a URL pointing at the archives (probably not
>>> specifically a HK problem but still).
>>
>>
>> They do -- it's just in the header. For example:
>>
>> Archived-At: <https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/JIHWMMZ3YTPMQSXRZPZSAQ7ESKMVLJT5/>
>>
>> This is one of the nice things about the new setup, for what it's
>> worth. The old archiver did not have persistent links to individual
>> messages. (If we had to remove one from the archive for privacy law or
>> other legal reasons, _all newer messages that month_ shifted in number,
>> making any links to them wrong.) This link is persistent and generated
>> when the mail is sent.
> 
> So a hidden link which is not clickable. However I wasn't in fact
> talking about a link to the individual message, which IIRC we never had
> in the old version either. I mean a static pointer to the Archives page
> or more usefully to the general list information page, which is what
> one would expect to see labelled as "users mailing list" rather than
> the mailto: link which is actually there.

They are all in the headers:

List-Id: Community support for Fedora users <users.lists.fedoraproject.org>
Archived-At:
<https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/PCWR2Q5AEH66HSRHCI7MBF77APHBQDY3/>
List-Archive:
<https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/>
List-Help: <mailto:users-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=help>
List-Post: <mailto:users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:users-join@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Depending on your mail client it may or may not show them somehow
outside that.

kevin

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