Re: R as on Ubuntu and Fedora

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Max Pyziur wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Feb 2018, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 02/21/18 07:28, Max Pyziur wrote:
>>> I've been learning R on both Fedora and Ubuntu.
>>>
>>> I've noticed that Ubuntu has considerably greater
>>> support for R than Fedora (more R deb packages than R
>>> rpm packages).
>>>
>>> Is there a rationale for this?

I'd presume that it's mostly that less folks have
contributed R-based packages to Fedora.  The only way to
change that is for more folks interested in R to maintain
packages in Fedora. :)

>> I don't use R or Ubuntu.  But I wonder if counting the number of packages is actually
>> reflective of the level of support.  Is there a one-to-one correspondence between deb
>> and rpm packages and the distributions?
>>
>> I count 140 rpm's (R-*) packages on Fedora.  This excludes the devel packages.  How
>> many more does Ubuntu have and what functionality do they provide that is missing
>> from Fedora?
>>
>> With that info, I would think one could write a BZ against R requesting the missing
>> pieces.  Probably would get a better, more definitive answer that way.

I'm not an R user either, so I could be wildly wrong here.
But I believe that most of the different packages are
extensions/modules/additional data files rather than than
missing pieces of the core R software.  Similar to CPAN for
Perl modules, R has CRAN for R packages.

(That's probably nothing new to either of you, but might be
useful to someone casually following this thread.)

There are 12,173 packages listed at
https://cloud.r-project.org/web/packages/available_packages_by_name.html

So I guess no distribution has much of it covered. ;)

> I count about 435 on Ubuntu.

To be fair, Ubuntu gets to build on top of the substantial
work of Debian.

For grins, I poked at the latest docker images from Debian,
Ubuntu, and Fedora and came up with these numbers:

# debian (docker.io/debian:latest)
$ apt-get update
$ apt-cache pkgnames | grep -ciw r
292

# ubuntu (docker.io/ubuntu:latest)
$ apt-get update
$ apt-cache pkgnames | grep -ciw r
365

# fedora (registry.fedoraproject.org/fedora:rawhide)
# (There are 42 '-devel' packages and 4 matches which are
# not R packages.)
$ dnf list available | grep -iw r | grep -cv -- -devel
167

# Non-R packages:
fonts-KOI8-R.noarch
fonts-KOI8-R-100dpi.noarch
fonts-KOI8-R-75dpi.noarch
perl-Tree-R.noarch

There's an R SIG for Fedora, which looks like it's been
quiet since October.  Perhaps some folks interested in R
packaging would be welcome there?

    https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-fedora

-- 
Todd
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