On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 09:56 -0700, stan wrote: > On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 07:19:02 -0500 > Sam Varshavchik <mrsam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > When we had initiscripts, I forget which one it was, but there was > > one that read all the config files, and enabled those interfaces. And > > stuff that depended on the network being up ran after that. Simple. > > Easy. So, again: is it unreasonable to be able to start things that > > require the statically- assigned IP addresses after they actually are > > assigned to their network ports? Did something change, in the world > > we live in, where this is not possible any more? And what exactly did > > change, that made this a logically impossible, herculean task? > > I think you are talking about the days before we had multi-threaded > boot, and boot was deterministic. Boot went to multi-threaded, and so > became non-deterministic, in order to shorten boot time. Maybe > part of the solution is a kernel (or systemd) switch that says, "I > don't care if boot takes 10 or 20 seconds (or a minute) longer, I want > it to be deterministic." If that switch was set, then things would > always run sequentially in a fixed order, unlike now. > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Many thanks for the suggestions & feedback AFAIK I have not changed anything and I cannot get the machine to fail again with the problem of DHCP running after the nfs mount attempts. Yesterday I could not get it to boot cleanly in about 10 attempts! Maybe it was a network problem, maybe a hardware problem? Maybe some form of race condition with NetworkManager-wait-online and friends I will bring a second F27 machine up to the same "update" state and see what happens _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx