Allegedly, on or about 18 December 2017, Cameron Simpson sent: > NetworkManager-wait-online may not be doing what people had hoped. I would have thought something with "wait online" in its name would actually wait for it to be on-line. To me, "on-line" means connected and operational. Starting up but not actually on-line, isn't on-line. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 4.13.16-202.fc26.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Nov 30 15:39:32 UTC 2017 x86_64 Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. There is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages posted to the mailing list. Programmers who can't take criticisms shouldn't release software that's so crap it seriously pisses people off. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx