On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Sam Varshavchik <mrsam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Just had another boot that utterly failed because services that were > supposed to start only after the network interfaces came up, didn't. They > started too soon. Privoxy's logfile has the smoking gun: > > 2017-12-16 09:42:39.875 7f4acdaa6740 Fatal error: can't bind to > 192.168.0.1:8000: Cannot assign requested address > > This is despite that NetworkManager-wait-online was enabled and active. This > is what everyone kept telling me was the only thing that needed to be done. > Well, it was enabled: > > [root@shorty system]# systemctl status NetworkManager-wait-online > ● NetworkManager-wait-online.service - Network Manager Wait Online > Loaded: loaded > (/usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager-wait-online.service; e > Active: active (exited) since Sat 2017-12-16 09:42:39 EST; 12min ago > Docs: man:nm-online(1) > Process: 977 ExecStart=/usr/bin/nm-online -s -q --timeout=30 (code=exited, > sta > Main PID: 977 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) > Tasks: 0 (limit: 4915) > CGroup: /system.slice/NetworkManager-wait-online.service > > Dec 16 09:42:32 shorty.email-scan.com systemd[1]: Starting Network Manager > Wait > Dec 16 09:42:39 shorty.email-scan.com systemd[1]: Started Network Manager > Wait O > > It came up at 09:42:39. And, at 09:42:39 privoxy also came up. And privoxy > still blew chunks because the primary network interface wasn't up yet. > > Why is it so friggin difficult to get something this simple, this basic > concept of starting things only after the network interfaces are up, working > correctly, and reliably? > > Oh yeah, I know. systemd. I've just read "man nm-online" (possibly for the first time!) and "nm-online -s" doesn't seem to do what "NetworkManager-wait-online.service" is supposed to do, systemd-wise. It waits "for NetworkManager startup to complete, rather than waiting for network connectivity specifically." :( Does privoxy start properly if you disable NM and its wait-online unit and use systemd-networkd and its wait-online unit? Does privoxy start properly if you disable NM's wait-online unit and use a custom wait-online unit that waits until "/sys/class/net/<IF>/carrier" is "1"? _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx