On 12/12/2017 04:27 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 12/13/17 08:18, Rick Stevens wrote: >> On 12/12/2017 03:23 PM, Greg Woods wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan >>> <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>> >>> There's almost no reason to run Windows on bare metal >>> >>> >>> There is if you use Windows to play 3-D games. >> In my experience, Windows has never played nicely with any other OS on >> the disk. M$ thinks they own the world and they used either >> unceremoniously evict any bootloader that wasn't theirs from the disk >> or bitch loudly that the drive was used and refuse to install at all. >> For those who had to have M$ on their system, my advice was to install >> Windows first, reserving enough space on the disk for Linux to live in. >> Second, install Linux into that reserved location. Linux would set up >> grub to load Linux or chain-load Windows and Bob's your uncle. >> >> If you must run Windows on bare metal rather than a VM, I'd use a second >> disk, install Windows on it and have your BIOS boot that second drive >> when you want to bring up Windows. A second drive may not work so well >> on a laptop, but you could use a USB3 external drive for the times you >> need Windows. This also allows you to cart your Windows environment >> around with you as you move from machine to machine (and you'd only >> need one license). I use a VM for Windows but I use it very rarely-- >> usually only if someone holds a large gun to my head or threatens my >> dog. Well, that only happened once and the person threatening my dog >> was, uhm, "disapeared". :-) > > I don't use Windows at all. But I have question anyway. I thought that Windows > would complain, and maybe refuse to run, if you used an external drive and the > hardware it is running on has changed. Dunno. As I said, I use VMs and I move the qcow2 file around on a USB drive. I paid for one license. I won't buy more so I can use their code when I'm at the office or on the road. I also don't have to sync the drive to the cloud to carry data from site to site. That being said, the VMs on all my hosts are configured identically and, being KVM/Qemu based, they probably look the same as far as Windows knows because I copied the /etc/libvirt/qemu/blah.xml file around, even though one VM host is i7-based and two are i5-based. That and I'm not all that interested in experimenting to see what makes M$ happy. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - The Theory of Rapitivity: E=MC Hammer - - -- Glenn Marcus (via TopFive.com) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx