Just found your follow-up message, after I'd replied to the first one. Allegedly, on or about 15 August 2017, Bob Goodwin sent: > When I address Firefox to https://www.google.com I get a message at the > bottom of my screen "Performing a TLS handshake to www.google.com" and > it looks like nothing more than that is ever going to happen ... Working fine here. Perhaps at the time you tried it, whatever Google server you were connecting to, is having a problem. [tim@fluffy ~]$ dig google.com +short 216.58.196.142 That's the IP that I'm currently finding Google at. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 4.11.11-300.fc26.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Jul 17 16:32:11 UTC 2017 x86_64 Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. There is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages posted to the mailing list. If you are not the intended recipient, why are you reading their email? You bastard! _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx