Re: Upgrade path from LXDE to LXQt

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On 26 July 2017 7:54:02 pm AEST, Ed Greshko <ed.greshko@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>On 07/26/2017 05:26 PM, evade. wrote:
>> On 26/07/17 15:22, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>> On 07/26/2017 12:42 PM, evade. wrote:
>>>> Does anybody know the best way to upgrade from Fedora 25 LXDE to
>Fedora 26 LXQt? 
>>>> I've not found an upgrade path documented anywhere.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not concerned about leaving configuration data behind, but
>would like to
>>>> clean up unnecessary packages after the transition.
>>>>
>>>> Rebuilding with F26 LXQt and restoring from a backup isn't a viable
>option for me.
>>>>
>>>> (FYI: I recently asked this question in the Fedora lxqt mailing
>list and while
>>>> there were two responses, nobody was sure and it was suggested I
>ask here.)
>>>
>>>
>>> I think what you are basically saying is that you are currently
>running F25 with an
>>> LXDE Desktop and would like to upgrade to F26 and end up with a LXqt
>Desktop.  If
>>> that is a correct assessment I would do the following....
>>>
>>> 1.  Upgrade from F25 to F26.
>>>
>>> 2.  Install the LXQt desktop by "dnf group install "LXQt Desktop"
>>>
>>> 3.  Remove the LXDE desktop by "dnf group remove "LXDE Desktop"
>>>
>>> Looking at the man page for dnf you'd see...
>>>
>>>         dnf [options] group remove <group-spec>...
>>>                Mark the group removed and remove those packages in
>the group from
>>>                the  system  which  are neither comprising another
>installed group
>>>                and were not installed explicitly by the user.
>>>
>>> You may run into a few minor issues along the way.  In that
>depending on how you
>>> installed initially your system may not have "LXQt Desktop" marked
>as installed.
>>> And, I don't know what display manager is used by each Desktop
>Environment so it is
>>> possible you may have to manually adjust that after the removal of
>LXDE.
>>>
>>> If you have the time and resources you may want to create a Virtual
>Machine that
>>> mimics your current system and perform the steps to verify it works
>as I think it
>>> should.  :-)
>>>
>>
>> Thanks Ed.
>> That's helpful information
>>
>> I haven't had good experiences trying to remove package groups which
>were installed
>> as a part of an image - I originally installed the LXDE spin of
>Fedora 25 you see.
>>
>> However I'll give it a go!
>>
>>
>> As it turns out I do actually have a virtual machine mimicking the
>"production"
>> one.  For some odd reason it only boots in to an old kernel in KVM
>(the newer
>> kernels crash in an odd way - no trace is left after reboot even with
>debug options
>> on) but I'll have to investigate that further in another thread.
>>
>>
>I had nothing to do, so I ran my suggestion in a VM.
>
>1.  I did a netinstall of F25 LXDE to a VM with few added items like
>libreoffice. 
>This showed 1291 packages installed.  I took note that it was using
>lxdm as the
>display manager.  I also lookup up info on LXqt and it seems to want to
>us ssdm
>for....so I took note of that.
>
>2.  I performed the upgrade to F26 via dnf.  This added a few more
>packages so I now
>had 1330.
>
>3.  I did a "group list" and saw that no Desktop Environment was listed
>as
>Installed.  So, I simply did a "dnf group mark install "LXDE Desktop".
>
>4.  I then added LXQt with "dnf group install "LXQt Desktop".  This
>added a few more
>packages and got me to 1518.
>
>5.  Then since I knew LXQt would want ssdm I ran "systemctl --force
>enable ssdm.service".
>
>6.  I then rebooted and logged in to the LXQt desktop.  I checked and
>both Desktop
>Environments were marked as installed.
>
>7.  I then ran "dnf group remove "LXDE Desktop".  It removed a few
>packages leaving
>me with 1449.
>
>8.  I then rebooted (probably didn't have to) and at the login screen I
>was left with
>only LXQt and Openbox as choices.
>
>So, it works just fine....

Thanks very much!
I would have missed step 3.

For the record my KVM problem seems to be fixed in Fedora 26, so I'll soon try this for my own test system.

Evade
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