Sudhir Khanger: >> On my weekly update I notice that I am almost always required to either >> restart the session or reboot the system. Both of these options are >> unacceptable because they require closing 10-15 apps and restarting >> them. That's unnecessary hassle and loss in productivity. Bryon Adams: > You don't HAVE to reboot, but some of the updated applications require > unloading an loading again. Wouldn't the easy solution be to reboot once > you're done with work for the week? I personally don't know why people > leave their computers on forever if it's not a server but that's just > me. I turn my computer off when I'm done with it. The "easy solution" always depends on who's point of view it is. Programmers like the easiest solution of doing what they want, and let the user put up with the consequences. Users prefer things to be less intrusive. I'm used to having to reboot for things like kernels and base things for your computer (graphics, etc.), but not for anything else. Having to reboot is a time waster, shut down isn't that quick, start-up is longer, and the interruptions to what I'm doing are annoying. I'm used to not having to reboot for ordinary software. I'm used to it carrying on working during an update, though firefox was one exception (it usually grinds to a halt and requires quitting and restarting). I'm used to the idea that if a program has been updated that I'm in the middle of using, that it's going to need quitting and restarting to use the new updated version, but not actually having to do that until I want. e.g. I've carried on word processing while the software is getting updated. It's one of the major advantages I've had with Linux against other operating systems, that updates will happen in the background, and rarely with any annoying consequences. Windows, on the other hand, and even Mac, I'm annoyingly used to any update cycle wasting an hour or more of my time, as the computer is either too thrashed by the update process to use it for my own purposes at the same time, or highly likely to need rebooting while I'm in the middle of doing things. Sometimes, it'll unceremoniously reboot, while I'm doing things. And there'll be another prolonged pause while it boots up that you can't do anything with it while it fiddles with itself. Once I watched the entire film, and extras, of Dr Zhivago (a damn long film), while Windows did its business. The computer was unusable during almost the entirety of that process, and you wouldn't want to try and use it for the few minutes that it let you. Leaving that to some time I don't want to use the computer, presumes that I have the spare time to babysit the computer, while I have other things to do. Linux is *not* Windows, don't go down that route. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages posted to the mailing list. The internet, your opportunity to learn from other peoples' mistakes. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx