> On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 15:48:06 +0200 > Ahmad Samir wrote: > > Which sounds to me like their highest priority is > inventing an excuse to do it anyway, but they > are desperately searching for an excuse that > isn't lame :-). Exactly. Reading the upstream bug report, I get exactly this impression: They want to throw away the whole idea of a ~/.profile or the eqivalent of your shell (be it bash, zsh, tcsh, or what you choose) and replace it by things they claim are more "modern" like systemd configuration files. They don't care that the result will be less powerful, less useful - and most importantly - will confuse anyone who in the last few decades (!) learned to set environment variables in ~/.profile (et al.) and now don't understand why those stopped working. The really sad - and I would say even embarassing for the GNOME and Fedora people - is that it's extremely easy to fix things so they work exactly like they did before. In fact, X Windows needed exactly the same fix some 25 years ago, when xdm replaced xinit. The simple fix is to run the parent of all the windows (the window manager, session manager, or whatever) through a "login shell" ($SHELL -l), so it will load the ~/.profile. More concretely, in /usr/bin/gnome-session we currently have the following: exec /usr/libexec/gnome-session-binary "$@" Instead, we could run it through a login shell, something like this: $SHELL -c "exec /usr/bin/true" && exec -l $SHELL -c "exec /usr/libexec/gnome-session-binary $*" || exec /usr/libexec/gnome-session-binary "$@" (the funky &&, ||, is so that if $SHELL is so weird that it doesn't support the "-c" option to run a command, we revert to running gnome-session-binary without the login shell). Alternative, we could avoid fixing "gnome-session" and instead fix the place where Wayland calls it, and do that through a login shell. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx