Re: F25 Wayland & environment variables

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On 3 December 2016 at 03:28, Tom Horsley <horsley1953@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Check this upstream bug for details:
>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736660
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Ahmad,
>>
>> Thank you for the link.  That surely explains the problem. Looks like
>> environment variables are on their way out.
>
> Gee, once the gnome developers get everything to the state
> of perfect flawlessness they are seeking, it will be impossible
> to actually use a computer to do any work.
>
> Gnome should be on its way out. There is already an 8 year old bug
> about not being able to control the X server options(1). Now they
> don't want you to control anything at all, but are still desperately
> trying to devise a justification that doesn't sound lame.
>
> If I ever lose the ability to run X instead of Wayland, looks like
> I'll need to add a wrapper that replaces the server, runs my
> login scripts, then execs the original server :-).
>
> 1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451562

To be fair, they haven't closed the upstream bug report, which shows
that this is how wayland handles things _now_ but they do not intend
to deliberately break userspace stuff; quoting from comment#41:
“Not going to close this until we have a credible story...  Systemd
stuff is blocked on util-linux stuff which is blocked on karel who is
out for a couple of weeks.  What we do beyond that after it lands im
not sure yet.”

This indicates that now that wayland is actually a viable option (it's
the default login session for GNOME on F25) some new bugs were found,
which is the case with any new software, it remains to be seen how
those bugs are going to be ironed out...

-- 
Ahmad Samir
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