On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 04:03:52PM +0100, Franta Hanzlík wrote: > What I want is completely eliminate 'journald' program, of course (if I can > not get rid of the systemd :( Are you trying to solve a particular problem other than distaste for journald? If that's what it is, sure, go for it, but please do be aware that you're straying quite far from what we actually work on testing. The journal provides several very useful features. I find 'systemctl status sshd' (or service of your choice) to be really useful. The filtered results are also really nice — much easier than grepping because grep isn't field-aware. (Try journalctl -p err.) So that said, if you really want a journald-free system based on Fedora, you might try uselessd, a "minimized" fork of system. http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/. We don't include it, but you might be able to create a Fedora Remix which does. That, however, didn't last very look due to lack of actual interest in development — so it's not been updated in two years. If that's not up your alley, you might try something like Linux From Scratch to build your own system that works just like you like it — or try Slackware. Or you might decide that it's not so horrible after all. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx