On 10/11/2016 05:10 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 12/10/16 03:14, Bryon Adams wrote:
Hi,
I can't see anywhere within Gnome Settings or Gnome Tweak Tool an
option that allows me to set the global system theme nor the global
colour scheme, plus the ability to view what each of these will look
like and to be able to fine tune them if necessary. Is this
functionality just not available under Gnome like it is under KDE?
regards,
Steve
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>>> On 10/10/16 11:15, Bryon Adams wrote:
Hello,
The only theming I know of is donein the appearance tab (top one)
in Gnome Tweak Tool. You will have to download other themes and unpack
them to the appropriate directory if they don't offer an installer (I
use Arc which does offer onethrough DNF). If you want to edit the
themes, such as change a colour, you will need to dig into the CSS and
change it that way. I believe KDE is a bit more tweakable out of the
box though, I haven't used it in a while but it was, in my opinion,
much easier to change these sorts of things.
Thanks,
Bryon
Thanks for your response Bryon. I looked in the appearance tab in Gnome
Tweak Tool, but the only theme setting is for GTK, not Gnome as
such. It
also doesn't provide any method of viewing what the available themes
look like so that one can choose which one looks the best for the
individual user. The same also applies to the icon themes and cursor
themes. I also want to do things like set the title bar background to
purple and the text to white, but the Colour settings in Gnome Settings
only set monitor and printer profiles, not the system colour scheme for
all window components like KDE does, which was one of the reasons I
originally moved away from Gnome.
I'm looking at Gnome again because I don't like the wire frame icons on
the KDE Launcher and the boot shutdown prompt that are now being shown
with F24.
regards,
Steve
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On 10/10/2016 04:12 AM, Stephen Morris wrote:
Steve,
The GTK+ drop down is the theme for all of your window decorations
and whatnot. Then if you want to change your GNOME Shell theme, you need
to enable to User Shell Theme extension. That extension should be there
by default in Fedora 23 and 24 if I remember correctly. This will allow
you to change the overall theme of top bar, for example opening the drop
down calendar up top and colour of the panel. If you want to change just
the colour of the panel, I used to use an extension to do that but I
cannot find it anymore. You'll have to dig up the .css file or create
one if it doesn't already exist. Alternatively you can find an extension
that changes it (mine changes it to a dark grey, for example).
There is no way that I know of to preview extensions or themes. I
just go off screenshots or download them and try them out, there isn't
really any harm in doing so. You will need to google/duck/etc some
themes, gnome-look.org has some you can take a peek at.
Thanks Bryon, I wasn't aware that everything in Gnome is GTK, I thought
that was only certain applications.
Given that KDE applications can be used under Gnome, and those
applications are not necessarily GTK how does one configure the display
of those in Gnome?
My concern is not so much with changing the colour of the top bar, but
with changing the colour of the title bar on every window that get
opened in Gnome from whatever source that is.
If I need to use an extension to get the configurability into Gnome that
KDE has, is there any setting entry that provides a link to where those
extensions are sourced from, or do I have to know what sites provide
extensions and manually navigate to that site to get them? Once the
extensions are obtained, is there an installation process associated
with them or do they have to be manually copied to a particular location
for them to be used?
If I need to go down the path of using a css is
~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css where the css statements need to be place?
Sorry for all the questions, I haven't used Gnome for years as a result
of moving from Gnome to KDE because of lack of easy configurability in
Gnome. I don't like what Fedora have done with KDE now, so I'm having
another look at Gnome, but unfortunately for me it looks like the
original issue of lack of easy configurability has gotten worse.
regards,
Steve
Thanks,
Bryon
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Steven,
I don't have any QT applications installed that I know about off
the top of my head or I'd test it out for you. I get my extensions from
the official repositories or from extensions.gnome.org. You can manually
install extensions as well, I have a resource monitor I install that
way. It's pretty pain-free so long as you have the dependencies, usually
there's a github page or something for those sorts of extensions with
requirements listed out. Gtk.css is the correct file, you can modifier
the header bar there without too much trouble. I've had trouble with
some applications not respecting things in that file though, such as
Evolution not respecting a resize css to make header bars thinner.
I don't think GNOME is as customisable as KDE to be honest. I
haven't used KDE more than a little here and there but it never stuck
for me although I really like krunner. If you aren't too keen on KDE
under Fedora, you might have some luck on OpenSUSE. They've got a good
base of users using KDE and I've seen people on reddit tout it as a very
good distro for KDE. I primarily use Thunderbird, a terminal, and
Firefox and I like the screen real estate I can get out of GNOME with a
few extensions. Mashing the mouse into the top left corner is also
really satisfying for some reason =P.
If you have some trouble with KDE under Fedora and want to stay
with it, it might be a good idea to check your concerns with the
developers. There's possible something in the Fedora KDE mailing lists
that could shed some light on the trouble you were having with it.
Cheers,
Bryon
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