On Mon, 2016-08-22 at 08:39 -0500, Dave Ihnat wrote: > Well, if you've an Android tablet or phone, WiFi Analyzer doesn't care > if the SSID is hidden. (Which is another reason not broadcasting your > SSID is useless--the Bad Guys(Tm) *can* find the channnel.) Even Windows' normal list for the user to pick local wireless networks shows so-called hidden SSIDs, they just showed up as "unnamed networks." (*) Making it bloody hard to pick the right one when you're surrounded by various unnamed networks. And in the days of people running un-encrypted networks, an awful lot of people connected to the wrong ones. * You'd see a list of networks within range like this: office gamesnerd unnamed network IPtoomuch unnamed network linksys So, not "hidden." And a pest to pick the right one, if you're supposed to be using one of the unnamed networks. You can't even go by always picking the first one on the list, because the list gets re-ordered in random ways from time to time. A so-called hidden SSID only takes the name out of part of the broadcast, it's still there in other parts (that most available network lists don't bother to show), and the wireless transmission, itself, is impossible to hide. -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.19.8-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Tue May 12 17:42:35 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org