Tim: >> I'm still not convinced a PC clock is deliberately designed to run slow. >> My experience with flattening BIOS batteries has been peculiar hardware >> behaviour, can't say that I've noticed the time going skew whiff. Joe Zeff: > Don't forget that most PCs are always online, and adjusting their clocks > from the various time servers. Mostly, today, you'd see the clock error > after the computer's been turned off for a while, or at least off-line. > Back when most computers were only online occasionally, if at all, it > was more obvious. To be honest, I think *most* PCs are nearly always switched off. Most PCs are owned by a vast majority of non-tech-heads, who don't leave them running 24/7. Back then, and still now with PCs that are off most of the time and boot-up with wrong clocks that may get adjusted sometime after going on-line, I've always put that down to simply bad timekeeping - PC clocks were infamous for simply being crap. And, no, in those cases, it definitely was not low batteries. That was one thing I kept an eye on. That, and people who never bother to set their clocks properly, or at all, because they simply didn't give a damn about it. People like that could be a right pain on mailing lists, as it screws things up. Yes, I know mail should be threaded by message ID headers, but when you get a post allegedly from two weeks back, my client hides it for not being current mail, other people's clients misfile it because they're sorting by subject and date, etc. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages posted to the mailing list. If you are not the intended recipient, why are you reading their email? You bastard! -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org