On 07/01/2016 03:14 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:36:35 -0400 > David A. De Graaf wrote: > >> With BOTH fixes, httpd now starts correctly. > > I have so many network things fail to start correctly > that I just started putting stuff like this in rc.local: > > /bin/bash -c 'sleep 5 ; systemctl restart ypbind' > /dev/null 2>&1 < /dev/null & > /bin/bash -c 'sleep 15 ; systemctl restart ntpd' > /dev/null 2>&1 < /dev/null & > ... > > simpler than fixing things "right", and works fine so far :-). Well, I've never felt NM was designed for anything other than a laptop that moves around on wifi a lot. A lot of the issues you're hitting is NM trying to make up its mind. My servers and anything that uses fixed IPs use the good ol' netscripts stuff and completely eschews NM. <soap> NM, journalctl and systemd/systemctl are solutions for problems that never existed except in the minds of the developers of said idiotic code. Just because it's "new" doesn't mean it's "better". It's just far, FAR more complicated and prone to breaking. </soap> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Squawk! Pieces of Seven! Pieces of Seven! Parity Error! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org