On Thu, 2016-05-19 at 12:23 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I haven't been able to make any sense out of the wireshark data yet > but this morning I tried again from gnome instead of xfce, the problem > remains the same, however trying to send a test message from Balsa > produced an error: > > "Balsa Relaying refused 550: Relaying Refused > Message left in your Outbox." > > Which once more makes me wonder if it is something my ISP is doing > that causes the no-connect problem? When you sent your test message, was the "from" and/or "to" addresses real ones that work on the public internet? Most mail servers do a basic test, and won't let you send from an address that couldn't be replied to. e.g. If I send a test mail from <tim@localhost>, it's going to reject that. But if I send it from <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>, it will allow it. I don't own example.com, but it passes the basic "is it most-likely real" address test, simply because "example.com" exists. Relaying is about handing over the mail to another server (unless your message is to someone that exists on that server, it has to be passed out to external servers), and that test is a very basic anti-spam technique. Though, one that's fooled by faking up realistic from addresses, as we've all seen in the spam that we get. You get a related, but different error message, if you try to send an email to yourself but using an internal email address that only you know about (e.g. using your internal LAN domain name, one without a public domain). It'll fail because *it* can't relay a message to a server that it doesn't know about. -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.19.8-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Tue May 12 17:42:35 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
