On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 4:57 AM, James Hogarth <james.hogarth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On 18 April 2016 at 03:07, Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Jon LaBadie <jonfu@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > On F22, the manpage for dnf says the update and update-to >> > commands are deprecated aliases for upgrade and upgrade-to. >> > >> > That being the case, shouldn't the update-info and >> > check-update commands also be deprecated and have >> > corresponding upgrade versions? >> >> That would be consistent. File a bug? >> >> I think the vernacular change is questionable, though. For a long time >> update means minor, and upgrade means major. And it makes it more >> confusing where upgrade vs system-upgrade. So system is what makes it >> major and not system is what makes it minor. Uhh? >> >> But I'm also too lazy to go look at the change to see what the logic >> is about. I guess from dnf's standpoint this isn't a meaningful >> distinction. >> >> For now I continue to use update. >> > > Once upon a time obsoleting was disabled by default and update would only do > non-obsoleting packages and upgrade would include obsolete in the dependency > resolution. > > The obsolete was enabled by default rendering the difference between update > and upgrade meaningless in default situations - hence the deprecation. Ahh, that makes complete sense. Different histories of update vs upgrade than what I'm used to. > Honestly I'm surprised both were carried forward to dnf rather than the > deprecated command being dropped at the yum -> dnf boundary. Yes, dnf would have been a good time for this. I can only guess early on something important switching over to dnf blew up spectacularly without it, and it was easier to put in a backward compatible deprecated subcommand than fight reality. -- Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org