Re: gmail thought it was spam

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On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Tom H <tomh0665@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 6:46 PM, Greg Woods <woods@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>
>>>> FYI, gmail puts your emails in spam for the following reason: Why is
>>>> this message in Spam? It has a from address in yahoo.com.au but has
>>>> failed yahoo.com.au's required tests for authentication.
>>
>> This is, unfortunately, a well-known issue between Google and Yahoo.
>> We're on Google at work so I get to deal with this on a semi-regular
>> basis.
>>
>> There is something called DMARC (you can Google for that term, the
>> first few hits are directly relevant). Without going into all the
>> details, suffice it to say that Google believes Yahoo has DMARC in
>> place, but they're doing it wrong. This results in mail from Yahoo
>> coming from servers that Google thinks it shouldn't be coming from, so
>> it gets rejected, flagged as spam, etc.
>>
>> I haven't researched it thoroughly enough to figure out who's right
>> and who's wrong here, but the bottom line is that it is hard to
>> receive mail from Yahoo users on Gmail.
>
> You must be on the right track, but here must be more to it than this.
>
> Yahoo mail that's sent directly to my address is OK but Yahoo mail
> that's sent via a mailing list is flagged as spam.


Short version as I understand it: yahoo's addition of dmarc=fail is a
request to consider any email not sent by a yahoo mail server as spam,
and Google is one of the few to honor that request.


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Chris Murphy
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