Tim: >>Hmm, that doesn't quite work. My mailer, probably most, converts the >>listed email dates into my local time. Cameron Simpson > Mine will display either (mutt) but I, like I suspect most, display my local > time so that I have intuitive feel for the date of the messages. If you want to see the order of when messages were written/posted (which are two different things), because you're trying to get a grasp on a thread, then you need things translated into the same timezone. It makes more sense to most people for that to be their own. While it's convenient to have your own and theirs, there's not the space to show them in the message list. > JD, it is good practice to recite your UTC offset instead of things like > "Mountain Standard Time", which is largely familiar only to USA residents. Yep, I have no clue what it is, I'd have to look it up. Likewise, with the plethora of countries which use something like eastern daylight savings time. It's completely vague. >> I presume you meant this one: >> message-id:56DA07F4.1060000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Technically, the angle brackets ("<....>") are a part of the message-id, you > shouldn't leave them out. I wasn't aware of that. I thought it was just like in email addresses, where they're a delimiter (email addresses can't contain pointy brackets, so they're a clear indicator of the beginning and end of the address), but not required if there's nothing else nearby. By way of example, if you look at the list headers, you'll notice addresses without them, if they have no other adjacent text. e.g. To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Another email addressing trick few people know, is that you can put comments in parentheses with an address. The mail servers will not try to parse them, same as how they ignore your name, and only parse the actual address to send the message. e.g. To: John Doe (managing director) <jd@xxxxxxxxxxx> If you suspect someone you write to is responsible for spam coming in your direction, you can slightly tailor your personal details outside of the address, and see if they get passed along, to confirm your suspicions. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages posted to the mailing list. Windows, it's enough to make a grown man cry! -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org