Tim: >> I am always amazed that people think shutting off a security >> something-or-other for some-amount-of-time can be considered safe. >> >> It takes virtually the blink of an eye to get compromised. >> >> If you need to turn off a security feature to do something, then there's >> something wrong with that /thing/ that required it. It could simply be >> crap programming, or it could be malicious. And even crap programming >> can be destructive outside of its own files. bruce: > really??? Yes. If you're on an ISP, or a compromised LAN, you may find that there's continual port scans and attacks. I watched a friend get his box hacked four seconds after establishing a network connection. He had to re-install to fix the problem. Same thing happened the next two times he connected up. I just about wet myself laughing. It took him three hacks before he wised up that he needed to run protective software all the time. Drop your guard for a second (or at least a few seconds), and that's enough. By default, most things work like they're supposed to on Linux. If you serve out HTML from the normal filepaths, it serves. There is, or was, a GUI configurator for toggling SELinux permissions for certain services that it's considered you ought to know what you're doing before you do them, that's just as easy as similar configurators for enabling services. e.g. There's a list, and you'd find HTTPD, or NFS, in it... I'd go as far as to say that if you have no idea about how to run a service, such as email or httpd, what it does, how it does it, how it can be compromised, how to enable it, how to set up the firewall for it, etc., then you have no business trying to run such a service. You'd better learn how to do it on an isolated LAN. The world is replete with spam, scams, hacks, etc, that affect everybody, because some dimwit made it easy for them. > I haven't met a lot of people in my 30+ years of tech who just gloss > over the impotance of security.. I have, unfortunately. And I see a lot of people who do on this list or forums. You can recognise them by the ones that when either dealing with a problem, or the installing a system, the first things they do are turn off SELinux and firewalls. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages posted to the mailing list. Linux servers are always being dæmonised... -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
