jd1008: >> I have a fundamental distrust of ALL software. >> As far as I am concerned, there has never been an OS and it's Apps >> that are/were trustworthy. >> g: > *nix are as close as you will get for os. What's that saying amongst NASA employees? "There's no problem that you cannot make worse." > moz software will never be because of attitude of hackers playing with > software there. That, in particular, is *the* modern problem. Home computer hacking (malware, viruses, etc.), used to be mostly confined to those illegally copying and sharing discs, who you might say, "deserved it." Though there was some peripheral damage, such as those nitwits bringing such discs to work and wrecking their boss' computer system. Now, you're at risk just by looking at websites, not even attempting to do anything dodgy. The browser is such a fundamental part of using a modern home computer, and probably the riskiest. You have browsers coded by amateurs, there probably are some black hats amongst them, and they've consistently refused to make the browsers better at handling errors. i.e. Such things as not rejecting malformed pages, and trying to make something out of the tag soup mess, regardless of the risks. Whereas if the browser had gone, "nup, can't read that," in the first place, the nincompoop making bad websites would have seen their errors as they went along. I find it difficult to browse many websites, these days. I have the script blocking, ad blocking stuff, to protect my sanity, and to try and make browsing safer and more private. But when you go to a website, you find you have to allow half a dozen scripts, and unrelated websites, just to get the damn page to render. >> It's F*****d up world. > a 7 letter curse word starting with 'F' ? Must be deadly... ;-) -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages posted to the mailing list. If you are not the intended recipient, why are you reading their email? You bastard! -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org