Tim: >> Now you've got a working replacement, you could try being brutal to >> the bad one. Bang it a few times, hard, see if the thing suddenly >> starts working again. You often see that with soldering faults. And >> you know the device deserves it for messing you about. ;-) Patrick O'Callaghan: > Maybe I'll try that :-) Go on, you know you want to. ;-) And it can't make anything worse. By the way, I thought you were against HTML mail on the list? -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org