Upgraded from F20 KDE environment using
fedup --network 22 --product=nonproduct
and X/KDE has rendering/refresh/redraw issues.
Application widgets and KDE pop menus are not draw, or,
at best some edge or corner is drawn. In an xterm,
the line being entered is drawn, but nothing else -
move the window and the content disappears.
System description at bottom.
Information points:
1) With F20, KDE worked fine on this machine.
2) Upgraded KDE system has above rendering issues
3) Remotely logging into broken system and launching X application
which displays on remote machine works just fine.
4) Booting from a F22 KDE Live dvd has *SAME* rendering issue.
5) Booting from a F22 Gnome Workstation Live dvd has *NO* rendering issues.
Information point 2: Seems to imply that the X.org SW is working fine; the
X protocol (X <-> app) is good.
Information point 4: Yea, the F22 Workstation dvd seems to work.
Question: Do the two Live dvds (KDE and Gnome) use the same nouveau driver?
If the two dvds use the same nouveau driver, then
it might be argued that its a KDE issue.
The machine has a Nvidia graphics board, but it is not being used;
was not used with F20 KDE and not being used for broken F22 KDE.
So, if it is a KDE issue (on this particular machine) then what to do?
In particular, it looks like on this machine I will be using Gnome
or some other window manager but not KDE for F22.
Options:
1) Attempt to use Nvidia graphics on broken F22 KDE machine.
There are many sites that describe how to disable nouveau
and enable Nvidia. But, 1) there does not seem to be a site
specifically addressing what to do when using F22 and 2) the sites
are not consistent (use rpmfusion vs Nvidia site for driver,
what needs to be done to disable nouveau (grub/blacklist,...), etc.).
Also, there is no guarantee that a KDE rendering issue will be
fixed by switching to Nvidia card.
2) Attempt to install F22 Workstation on existing broken F22 KDE machine.
If one uses the F22 Gnome Workstation dvd to "install to harddrive"
will it allow you to select which disk to install on
(my /home has already been backed up)?
I assume this will set Gnome as the desktop into which the system boots.
Or, is there some dnf command which will install the Workstation
so that the system boots into Gnome.
3) Re-install F20 (KDE) and then upgrade to F22 Workstation.
This is the most time consuming, but it appears to be rather
straight forward.
install F20 from dvd
fedup --network 22 --product=workstation
Question: Which option above is the most likely to succeed?
Question: Once the system is working as F22 Gnome Workstation, can I then
install and try out other window managers (e.g., xfce)?
Advice sought.
Thanks
Richard
System:
> uname -a
Linux olympia 4.1.3-201.fc22.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jul 29 19:50:22 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
hardware (board, cpu, Nvidia graphics board (not used), etc.)
# /sbin/lshw -c display
*-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: G73 [GeForce 7300 GT]
vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci at 0000:01:00.0
version: a1
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller bus_master cap_listrom
configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
resources: irq:29 memory:fd000000-fdffffff memory:d0000000-dfffffff
memory:fc000000-fcffffff ioport:bc00(size=128) memory:fe8e0000-fe8fffff
Display driver
> rpm -qa --qf '%{NAME} %{VERSION}-%{RELEASE} %{ARCH}\n' | grep nouv
xorg-x11-drv-nouveau 1.0.11-2.fc22 x86_64
X.org software
libX11 1.6.3-1.fc22 x86_64
xorg-x11-server-Xorg 1.17.2-2.fc22 x86_64
etc.
Desktop (KDE, Gnome, etc.)
kde-runtime-libs 15.04.2-1.fc22 x86_64
kde-runtime 15.04.2-1.fc22 x86_64
etc.
Monitor
Early on, I swapped out the monitor to a different one and still
got the same problem
fedup --network 22 --product=nonproduct
and X/KDE has rendering/refresh/redraw issues.
Application widgets and KDE pop menus are not draw, or,
at best some edge or corner is drawn. In an xterm,
the line being entered is drawn, but nothing else -
move the window and the content disappears.
System description at bottom.
Information points:
1) With F20, KDE worked fine on this machine.
2) Upgraded KDE system has above rendering issues
3) Remotely logging into broken system and launching X application
which displays on remote machine works just fine.
4) Booting from a F22 KDE Live dvd has *SAME* rendering issue.
5) Booting from a F22 Gnome Workstation Live dvd has *NO* rendering issues.
Information point 2: Seems to imply that the X.org SW is working fine; the
X protocol (X <-> app) is good.
Information point 4: Yea, the F22 Workstation dvd seems to work.
Question: Do the two Live dvds (KDE and Gnome) use the same nouveau driver?
If the two dvds use the same nouveau driver, then
it might be argued that its a KDE issue.
The machine has a Nvidia graphics board, but it is not being used;
was not used with F20 KDE and not being used for broken F22 KDE.
So, if it is a KDE issue (on this particular machine) then what to do?
In particular, it looks like on this machine I will be using Gnome
or some other window manager but not KDE for F22.
Options:
1) Attempt to use Nvidia graphics on broken F22 KDE machine.
There are many sites that describe how to disable nouveau
and enable Nvidia. But, 1) there does not seem to be a site
specifically addressing what to do when using F22 and 2) the sites
are not consistent (use rpmfusion vs Nvidia site for driver,
what needs to be done to disable nouveau (grub/blacklist,...), etc.).
Also, there is no guarantee that a KDE rendering issue will be
fixed by switching to Nvidia card.
2) Attempt to install F22 Workstation on existing broken F22 KDE machine.
If one uses the F22 Gnome Workstation dvd to "install to harddrive"
will it allow you to select which disk to install on
(my /home has already been backed up)?
I assume this will set Gnome as the desktop into which the system boots.
Or, is there some dnf command which will install the Workstation
so that the system boots into Gnome.
3) Re-install F20 (KDE) and then upgrade to F22 Workstation.
This is the most time consuming, but it appears to be rather
straight forward.
install F20 from dvd
fedup --network 22 --product=workstation
Question: Which option above is the most likely to succeed?
Question: Once the system is working as F22 Gnome Workstation, can I then
install and try out other window managers (e.g., xfce)?
Advice sought.
Thanks
Richard
System:
> uname -a
Linux olympia 4.1.3-201.fc22.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jul 29 19:50:22 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
hardware (board, cpu, Nvidia graphics board (not used), etc.)
# /sbin/lshw -c display
*-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: G73 [GeForce 7300 GT]
vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci at 0000:01:00.0
version: a1
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller bus_master cap_listrom
configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
resources: irq:29 memory:fd000000-fdffffff memory:d0000000-dfffffff
memory:fc000000-fcffffff ioport:bc00(size=128) memory:fe8e0000-fe8fffff
Display driver
> rpm -qa --qf '%{NAME} %{VERSION}-%{RELEASE} %{ARCH}\n' | grep nouv
xorg-x11-drv-nouveau 1.0.11-2.fc22 x86_64
X.org software
libX11 1.6.3-1.fc22 x86_64
xorg-x11-server-Xorg 1.17.2-2.fc22 x86_64
etc.
Desktop (KDE, Gnome, etc.)
kde-runtime-libs 15.04.2-1.fc22 x86_64
kde-runtime 15.04.2-1.fc22 x86_64
etc.
Monitor
Early on, I swapped out the monitor to a different one and still
got the same problem
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