On Tue, 2015-07-14 at 14:19 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I've just installed Fedora-22 from a Fedora-22 Live KDE usb stick. > After dnf-installing a few packages, most things seem to be working, > but I'm puzzled by the apparent lack of a panel, > or if the bar at the top with Activities and Time are the panel > then I'm puzzled by the lack of icons in the panel. > > I read advice to right-click in the panel, > but if this is the panel that has no effect. > > Also I miss the multiple desktops I had in Fedora-21 KDE. > Have these been abolished in Plasma-5? > > A very ignorant question - I see everyone refers to KDE Plasma. > Is there in fact another non-Plasma version of KDE > that one could run under Fedora? There have been some name changes, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE#Brand_repositioning: "After the repositioning, the name KDE no longer stands for K Desktop Environment, as it now acts as an umbrella brand for software produced by the community. What would have been previously known as KDE 4 will now be referred as "KDE Software Compilation 4" (abbreviated "KDE SC 4").[10] Regardless, many users still refer to it as KDE 4. With the releases of Frameworks 5 and Plasma 5, the term "Software Compilation" is again retired, in favor of the names of each specific product the KDE community produces.[11] Many users still refer to various parts of the project (particularly Plasma) as KDE 5." So no, it doesn't make sense to have a KDE without Plasma. Also, note that a further change has introduced the name "KDE Frameworks", which is why most of the components are now called "kf5-*". The Fedora KDE list would be the place to discuss this (I think you also hang out there), see https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde poc -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org