On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 3:39 PM, jd1008 <jd1008@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On 07/01/2015 03:14 PM, Matthew Woehlke wrote: >> >> On 2015-06-30 19:01, jd1008 wrote: >>> >>> So, how can I proceed with a brand new drive, >>> dd /dev/zero into the first ... say 4K bytes, partition >>> it with fdisk, do not mark any partition bootable, so >>> that bios will skip over it ? >> >> Don't know why no one's mentioned this, but... you could always just >> install an actual bootloader on the drive that boots from the device >> from which you really want to boot. (I think you can do this with grub...) >> >> Of course, plugging that drive into any other computer might make for an >> interesting experience :-). >> > I am sorry - but ... > the design and implementation of the traditional > (msdos) scheme and ( from what I understand so far > from all the respondents), even gpt, effectively render > the disk to have a signature which BIOS interprets > as a valid partition table AND as bootable, and thus > hangs there looking for what does not exist. > > Why the design mixed 2 different things into 1, I have > no idea. But AFAIAC, it sucks and blows atthe same time. Well, MBR stands for master boot record. It stands to reason, in the epoch in which it and BIOS were invented, that you'd only use MBR if you want to boot a system. Once computers and drives got cheap enough, and in particular drives got big enough, is when the mortal user with a budget usurped MBR to do only partitioning. -- Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org