On 8 Jun 2015 at 7:55, Peter Boy wrote: Subject: Re: workstation spin From: Peter Boy <pboy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date sent: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 07:55:21 +0200 To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Am 07.06.2015 um 22:28 schrieb Amadeus W.M. <amadeus84@xxxxxxxxxxx>: > > > > Someone please enlighten me. What does the current workstation spin > > actually have to do with work? > > > > On a workstation one might want to do some development, C/C++, java, web, > > python, latex, modeling, engineering, whatever. One might want to have at > > least windows that come with minimization buttons already, to configure > > our own shortcuts. I mean, really, do I have to get/enable extensions > > just to get minimization/maximization buttons on my windows? > > …. > > > > > I know this will be classified as a rant, and there will be those who say > > "why don't you do it?". I don't mean to be negative, I just want to point > > out the need for an actual workstation spin, in the hope that someone in > > the steering committee would agree. > > > > It might be qualified as rant, yes. That discussion is closed and in some way lost for those who try to use Fedora for real productive work. > > And „workstation“ is not a spin but a kind of „product“ or „edition“ in contrast to server and cloud. You must not take it literally. „desktop“ might have been more appropriate > > On the login screen you can switch to „Gnome Classic“ (the round symbol besides the login button) which gives you a desktop better for real work (the same as with the current enterprise line). With F22 the Classic desktop is quite ok, again, and easier to use as having to configure all that extension stuff by yourself. > > At the end you may better switch to a „real“ spin, i.e. XFCE or KDE desktop. In particular, XFCE has obviously benefited greatly from the disappointment of Gnome 3 in recent years and has "grown up“. For me it's really become usable. The Gnome community is a lost case. > I agree that the latest option are less than I would like. I recently setup an machine using the workstation option. Did an rpm -qa afterwards, and it have over 1000 less things installed than my other systems that had been upgraded from versions where you could select things, and also add other things. What I did was to use rpm -qa to get a list of all the packages on the other machines, and created a script with yum install (added the list) with --skip-broken Gives a message about already installed and lasted for what is already installed, but did find a few things that where no longer available. I stated back when it was Red Hat 9, before the fedora came out, and liked using the DVD options, and then selecting more to install. Also, didn't like the server option, since tried it on another machine, and it didn't install the graphical desktop?? Even doing an update you have to say nonproduction (?) Perhaps there is an option to still do this, but the default download I got seemed to be very limited. > > > > — > Dr. Peter Boy > Universität Bremen > Mary-Somerville-Str. 5 > 28359 Bremen > Germany > > pb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > www.zes.uni-bremen.de > > ———————————————— > > Are you looking for a web content management system for scientific research organizations? > Have a look at http://www.scientificcms.org > > -- > users mailing list > users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org +----------------------------------------------------------+ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor Guam Community College Computer Center mailto:mikes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:msetzerii@xxxxxxxxx http://www.guam.net/home/mikes Guam - Where America's Day Begins G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ +----------------------------------------------------------+ http://setiathome.berkeley.edu (Original) Number of Seti Units Returned: 19,471 Processing time: 32 years, 290 days, 12 hours, 58 minutes (Total Hours: 287,489) BOINC@HOME CREDITS ROSETTA 30477936.285971 | SETI 53994581.372166 ABC 16613838.513356 | EINSTEIN 63097157.404700 -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
