Hi Pete - no criticism taken :) I want to run a server because I want to serve things... ftp, mail, printer, media, backup, dhcp, samba, freeswitch, owncloud and much much more... Strange, but true Still getting to the bottom of all this. I followed Chris Murphy's lead and this is what I now get from the list at http://ur1.ca/jvh4d [root@frontserver ~]# systemctl is-enabled cups.path abrt-ccpp.service abrt-oops.service abrt-vmcore.service abrt-xorg.service abrtd.service accounts-daemon.service atd.service auditd.service avahi-daemon.service bluetooth.service chronyd.service crond.service cups.service dbus-org.bluez.service dbus-org.fedoraproject.FirewallD1.service dbus-org.freedesktop.Avahi.service dbus-org.freedesktop.ModemManager1.service dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service display-manager.service dmraid-activation.service firewalld.service gdm.service getty@.service iscsi.service libvirtd.service lvm2-monitor.service mcelog.service mdmonitor.service ModemManager.service multipathd.service netcf-transaction.service NetworkManager-dispatcher.service NetworkManager.service rngd.service rsyslog.service rtkit-daemon.service smartd.service spice-vdagentd.service sshd.service systemd-reada head-collect.service systemd-readahead-drop.service systemd-readahead-replay.service vmtoolsd.service avahi-daemon.socket cups.socket dm-event.socket iscsid.socket iscsiuio.socket lvm2-lvmetad.socket rpcbind.socket default.target graphical.target nfs-client.target remote-fs.target dnf-makecache.timer enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled enabled [root@frontserver ~]# That was after installing ModemManager-glib-devel-1.4.0-1.fc21.i686 spice-vdagent-0.15.0-3.fc21.i686 dnf-0.6.4-1.fc21.noarch And enabling those plus rpcbind.socket But, still no boot into a graphical interface. I've put the output /var/log/messages here: https://app.box.com/s/kb0becxjig2wmnl0b6468v83a85nd4wy Of interest perhaps are the following errors which seem to follow the point I'd expect gnome to kicking: Mar 9 21:45:17 frontserver rngd: Error writing /dev/tpm0 Mar 9 21:45:17 frontserver kernel: tpm_tis 00:04: tpm_transmit: tpm_send: error -16 Mar 9 21:45:18 frontserver kernel: [ 135.139069] tpm_tis 00:04: tpm_transmit: tpm_send: error -16 I'm beginning to wonder if bug report is needed... thanks, M. -- Morgan Read <mailto:mstuffATreadDOTorgDOTnz> -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org