> Tim: >>> I can't say that I have that experience, it's very rare that an update >>> breaks something on my system. Sounds like you have something wrong >>> with your system, more than Fedora in general. > > Jim Lewis: >> What does "very rare" mean? So it has happened to you on occasion? > > Way back on Fedora 17, playback of some video files became unstable with > some yum update. I can't recall anything since then. > >> It happens to me on occasion and certainly does to others as well and so >> I >> don't trust it. I want an update to improve my system, not make it >> worse. > > Fair enough, but avoiding a problem (while accumulating others, such as > numerous security flaws), instead of fixing a fault (or several) by > installing updates and debugging anything that screwed up, isn't really > a good way of doing things. > >> The problem is still there and no I have not rebooted yet. > > Well, that well may be the problem and solution, but can't tell without > trying. Generally speaking, there is more than one terminal installed, > so you can use another one to work on fixing a broken one. > > Some (few) updates require a reboot, generally just kernel-related > updates. Some updates do need you to log out and back in again. Some > updates require you to quit using whatever software has been updated, > and restart it. Some don't seem to require that, at all, you can carry > on using the prior version until you want to quit it. > Hi Tim, I have been running Fedora 14 since it came out and have never installed an update (well, okay, I manually installed the Shellshock patch and do run my own custom kernel). I'm still waiting for an intrusion or something to go wrong. I am behind a pretty good firewall and don't do anything really stupid with my systems. I have to say 14 was and is the best Fedora they ever came out with. Basically every time I run an update, on anything, something goes wrong. I was great at IBM as a quality control person because nothing ever got past me! But I didn't have many friends on the dev team. Until I got on the dev team. Can you point me to where one of these other terminals is? The only reason I can still use one or make more is because there were some already opened before I ran the update. My attempts to find a way to create a terminal by not using a previous one have all failed. Since I fully expect to have no terminals when I finally reboot I have opened Bug 1196472 for this issue. They have already begun to look at the problem. Jim Lewis -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
