On Monday 23 February 2015 14:03:17 Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Andrew R Paterson > > <andy.paterson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I have to say I find this disucssion interesting.... > > I have spent what amounts to a small fortune (for me!) making sure that > > when I upgrade from one version of LINUX to another (initially slackware > > but so far fedora 9 - 20) that I can minimise the risk of (anaconda or > > whatever the current installer might be) deciding in its wisdom whilst > > doing the partitioning that it thinks best, blowing away my /opt and/home > > partitions - > It's comments like this that make me want to grab a metal bucket, put > it on my head, and start hitting myself with a mallet. > > To delete and existing /opt or /home requires explicit user > intervention for this to happen. It doesn't happen by itself. You have > to a.) click the mount point, b.) click the minus (-) button to > indicate you want it removed, and c.) the installer produces a dialog > indicating it's going to be deleted, along with a cancel button, and > d.) the installer produces a summary of changes at the very end of the > Manual Partitioning process THAT FUCKING HIGHLIGHTS THIS SHIT IN RED > LETTERS indicating it will be deleted. > > So what is it *EXACTLY* that you're experiencing? And what is it > *EXACTLY* you think you should experience instead? If you can't do > that, please stop offering opinions about how you need to minimize > risk due to the installer. This the compsci equivalent of > hypochondria... > > > which have nearly 20 years of accumulated digital clutter! > > And you have backups right? Because by definition it's not important > unless you have backups. Points taken :) :o and apologies where needed. But maybe the problem is that not many people install/reinstall/fedup often enough to get familiar with it. So I simply make sure I avoid the problem. The thought of risking "mucking it up" after being bitten just once (maybe in the distant past) still makes me do an "Upgrade" the way I do by a reinstall but requiring my own /home and other "partitions". Because these are on separate disks these filesystems are kept securely offline till the install (upgrade) is complete - then I manually add them - anyone else wanting to be really sure they have control of an "upgrade" would be sensible in doing the same thing! I am sure the existing anaconda will allow me to do this - but it irritates me that some people think it shouldn't - and like I say I don't upgrade often enough to be confident and sure. The thought of trying to back up 300GB using hmmm! a dvd drive! persuades me I'd rather live with a RAID 1 setup and occasionally take one of the mirrors off and replace it with a new disk - preserving the old disk mirror as my "backup". So I'm afraid I want to preserve my filesystems (and their partitioning) and NO - I don't have backups! - and you wont persuade me to take any either - I would spend all day doing backups - and please don't give me another lecture on the subject - I have set up bacula on a large network blah! and done script systems using dump/restore and found that its a full time job which introduces new risks that pretty well counter the benefits - Unless you are talking about enterprise systems! Neurotic I might be, but that's the way I do an "upgrade" because I don't trust the installer - yum upgrade - fedup or whatever its next incarnation might be! Andy -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
