On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:39:10PM +0100, Heinz Diehl wrote: > I see. Maintainability preceeds flexibility by reducing/eliminating user > influence at the same time. While it took over 100 years in medicine to reduce > "i know what's best for you" and moving towards "shared decision making", it > goes the other way 'round here. Fortunately, there are still distributions > which let the user have the desired influence. In my opinion your comments here are a little over-strong, but, yes, fundamentally, Fedora isn't meant to be a hacker/tinkerer distribution at the user level. (If you want to get involved as a hacker/tinkerer at the _development_ level, that's awesome and please do, but that's a different thing.) User control of content and devices is part of the Fedora vision*, but as we look towards having the biggest impact in the world to bring that to everyone, there are bigger battles to fight: open and free software vs. proprietary, hardware enablement with open source drivers, ease of making derivative works, transparency and traceability of builds, etc. Those are the areas we need to fight. Chris already explained (very eloquently) the reasons the installer's partitioning interface works as it does, and the goal certainly _isn't_ to "reduce influence". It's to allow users to worry about things that matter by _just doing the right thing_ where it doesn't matter for 99.99%. If you're in that 0.01, or for whatever other reason you want it to be different, there are good mechanisms in Fedora for doing basically whatever. (Seriously, consider kickstart, even at small scale.) And if that's not enough, sure, it's a big world and there _are_ awesome hacker-focused distributions. * I mean, literally: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Vision_statement -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
