On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 12:29 PM, jd1008 <jd1008@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Seems like grub UI could be improved by providing clearer > explanations for each choice and it's consequences. What GRUB UI? Haha. GRUB upstream is not targeted at the mortal user. It's basically a buffet of tools for distributions, who then patch the hell out of it, making them all sufficiently different they end up with all sorts of incompatibilities. GRUB upstream will invariably say you need to build their upstream version any time you report a bug, because they have no idea to what degree distro specific patches have altered upstream intended behavior. That's how awful the cooperation and agreement really is, on this very basic plumbing aspect of Linux OS's. This is a "How many ways can we boot a computer?" project, is what it comes down to. So when the goal is finding myriad ways of achieving the exact same goal, there are no resources for things like consolidated agreement, let alone polish. I think the work just on patching GRUB exceeds the work required for each distro to have their own simple bootloader if they were to have the discipline in their GUI installers to reduce the layouts and hence ways to boot the system. It's a big circular "let's make more work for ourselves" extravaganza. But then, funny enough, if it weren't for that, we maybe wouldn't have projects like Fedora Atomic which is really quite cool. -- Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org