On 02/15/2015 06:16 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: <> > On Sun, 2015-02-15 at 22:07 +1030, Tim wrote: <> a few years ago, i would have agreed with you both. except for, a few years ago +1 day, when i needed to find password for a client running w98se, that had an employee leave. he actually was fired and when asked for his password, he supplied wrong password. granted, with w98se, such was not a great problem, except that he had also encrypted a lot of files. on a hunch, to see if he used same password for encrypted files, i ran a web search to see what was available to recover his password, and i found: Austrumi 0.9.2 iso and burned it to a cd. http://cyti.latgola.lv/ruuni/ ftp://austrumi.ru.lv/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrumi_Linux http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=austrumi on boot, it presents a list of options, among them is password recovery for oos, which i ran and recovered his password. after login, i found encryption program he used, ran it using his login password and obtained access to files. the next day, i decided to install w98se on a spare drive and run some test to see how well it worked. i did notice a little increase in time with larger passwords, but i did not use a stop watch to time them. "counting monkeys" was close enough. ;-) i have not had need again and i do not know how Austrumi works on latest releases, or even if it does. i do know that there are many programs for cracking encrypted files and phrases, and i have noted that some have comments regarding the make up. i see no need to debate what does or does not make good passwords, ie, longer to to break or unbreakable, because there are plenty of decrypt programs for linux that you can see for yourself that the more mixed, the harder/longer to decrypt. if you live long enough. ;-) -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org