Allegedly, on or about 05 February 2015, poma sent: > Therefore "Goozilla" considers Mozilla Thunderbird as less secure!? > Really "Goozilla"? This rather depends on *why* you're encountering this. A great many applications logon to servers by sending your username and password, unencrypted. Anyone else on the same network can see them. By refusing unencrypted plain text logons, the server will be stopping your application before it sends out the password. However, some dumb implementations of this protection don't interrupt the logon process, and fail you after the password has already been sent out, in the clear. This issue has been around since the internet sprang into existence, yet even now it's a pain to get encrypted logons working, as little effort has been put into standardising them. There's a plethora of different ways to do it, none of which can be considered a default, and not all methods will be supported on either side. You do see, now, some applications attempting to do a secure logon as the first thing, instead, then falling back to other methods. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. ZNQR LBH YBBX -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org