Guys! This started out with a pretty reasonable question about a particular printer 'has anyone else got one working' - seemed a pretty reasonable question to me, I and I would guess lots of other people on this list do not have such a printer - so we didn't reply. But somehow this seems to have developed into a flame war between someone who feels they Must respond and the op. For all our sakes - please chill it! Sent from my iPhone > On 5 Feb 2015, at 09:07, Bob Goodwin <bobgoodwin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On 02/05/15 01:28, poma wrote: >>> >We keep getting further from answering that. Last week I began with a >> On this list it happens all the time, including questions and answers.:) >> >> Also this list is not: >> "Customer Service Center" >> "CERTIFIED Center of Excellence" >> :) > . > No, as a rule this list is better than any "Customer Service Center!" >> >> >>> >phone call to Brother Tech Support where the only answer was in an >>> >e-mail follow-up. The guy I was talking to couldn't admit, after going >>> >off to investigate, that they had no driver, their response would be by >>> >e-mail: >>> > >>> >"Description of Solution 200000004054 * >>> > >>> >Currently, Linux support is not available for your Brother machine. >>> > >>> >For current support information in regards to Linux you may visit >>> >http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/index.html" >>> > >>> >That shows that they offer Linux support for many printers but none in >>> >this series. >>> > >> Why not study the product and inquire*before* purchase? >> Is the price priority or should it be something "else", it is up to each to decide. > . > > I read the spec's carefully and knew what I was buying, it was CHEAP! My HL-2170W needed either Toner, a new toner cartridge, or a drum assembly, I could not determine which without some empirical testing and I had nothing to try to substitute ... I consulted the people I buy toner from, considered prices, and decided the printer Newegg had on sale that morning was worth trying, a whole new set of parts for what it might cost to fix the HL-2170W. Who could turn that down? The lack of an Ethernet port worried me but I bought it anyway and paid for that with my time required to get the damned thing set to where I could access it with the browser. >> >> Not that I recommend, but few*details* catches the eye, and it is applicable to any printer of any manufacturer: >> >> - HL-L2340DW: >> a) Wireless 802.11b/g/n, Hi-Speed USB 2.0, Wi Fi Direct >> b) 1-line LCD display >> >> - HL-L2380DW: >> a) Wireless 802.11b/g/n, Hi-Speed USB 2.0, Ethernet, Wi Fi Direct >> b) 2.7" Color TouchScreen Display >> c) Copying and high-quality color scanning >> >> Ref. >> http://www.amazon.com/Brother-HL-L2340DW-Printing-Wireless-Networking/dp/B00LZS5EEI >> >> Whether a particular model actually has the Ethernet should always carefully check. >> Because of the lack of the Ethernet,*any* network-capable printer is just a good joke. >> Always has to go with the Ethernet, and only then with the WiFi, NFC, etc. >> In this way, it "should" be possible to access WebUI management without hassle. >> Is it so with the Brother, do not ask me. >> >> 1-line LCD display!?:) >> Welcome to the year 2015. > . > Yes, a tiny one line display with no backlight. I needed a flashlight and a magnifier to read it! >> >> Nor I can not comment on what is the*actual* support for "Linux". >> BTW Linux is just a kernel.:) >> How many there are technical illiteracy in the world it is actually amazing. >> >> Besides the Brother is neither the first nor the last manufacturer of printers. > . > > My experience with Brother has been generally good. They don't do things to make it difficult to refill their toner cartridges, just pull a plug out and pour in the toner, reset a "flag gear" and it thinks it has a new Brother cartridge. > > I have had ink jet printers that required special tools to reset the cartridge, even an HP laser printer that needed a special tool to make a fill hole, etc. So I stick with the one I know. > > What happened to service manuals with electronic schematics, etc? There was a time when every "two-way" radio came with complete service information! Who has ever seen such stuff for a computer or it's peripherals? > > I guess I expect too much, > > Bob > > -- > http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD > box10 Fedora-21/64bit Linux/XFCE > > -- > users mailing list > users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org