> Hey Jim. > > I'm going to cheat!! But given that you're retired, you might have a > bit of time. Is there a "big box" (staples/bestbuy/radioshack/etc...) > close by. If there is, go get a cheap/different router > (wired/wireless) and test to see if this box gives you the same > behaviour. > > To be honest, never run into this kind of issue, but given murphy, I > know that sometime in my future I will! > > Let us know. > > thanks Yes, even here in Hawaii (Oahu) there are stores all over the place. I'll probably get a new router (NOT a LinkSys) from Best Buy as I got my modem from them. Okay, I was able to recreate the other problem after rebooting laptop1 (Fedora 21 Mate-Compbiz Spin). I could not ping it from either wired box. However, I tried pinging from the router and that worked fine (so did traceroute). Speaking of traceroute, this from wired box big4: big4 / # traceroute 192.168.1.111 traceroute to 192.168.1.111 (192.168.1.111), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 192.168.1.109 (192.168.1.109) 3006.581 ms !H 3006.573 ms !H 3006.563 ms !H The !H is of course host unreachable. And again, if I ping from laptop1 to big4 it succeeds, and now so does the ping/traceroute from big4: big4 / # ping -c 1 192.168.1.111 PING 192.168.1.111 (192.168.1.111) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.1.111: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=12.9 ms --- 192.168.1.111 ping statistics --- 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 12.902/12.902/12.902/0.000 ms big4 / # traceroute 192.168.1.111 traceroute to 192.168.1.111 (192.168.1.111), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 192.168.1.111 (192.168.1.111) 20.310 ms 20.394 ms 20.453 ms I guess the only bad thing about spending time on crap like this is I used to get paid real money to debug and fix crap like this :). Jim Lewis -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org