On 17.01.2015 16:37, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > >>> Am I right in thinking that there are two entirely different >>> versions of firewall in Fedora-21? I've been looking at >>> > <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD#Dynamic_firewall_with_FirewallD> >>> >>> and it seems I have to choose between systemd (dynamic) firewall >>> and iptables (static) firewall? > >>> I'm surprised that I have never seen an article starting >>> "In Fedora 21 you will have to choose between firewalld and iptables." >>> Or have I completely misunderstood the situation? > >> In the link you provide above you do see... >> >> "The actual static firewall model with system-config-firewall and lokkit >> will still be available and usable, but not at the same time as the daemon >> is running. The user or admin can decide which firewall solution should be >> used by enabling the corresponding services." > > I know, that is what led me to my conclusion. > But it is in the middle of the article quoted above. > I would expect this article, or some article on the topic, to START > by saying "In Fedora-21, you will have to choose ...". > >> FWIW, even firewalld does use "iptables", just in a manner which allows >> dynamic changes without having to unload/reload kernel modules. > > It isn't clear from the article (at least to me) > if one actually has to enable iptables when running firewalld, > or if this is done automatically? > > In my experience, the major problem with systemd is the documentation - > I don't want to know how marvelous it is, I just want to be told > (precisely) how to use it. > firewalld != systemd :) -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org