I just got a Dell XPS 13, late 2013. It's the same thing as the Sputnik project's Ubuntu developer version. It was $900 on the microsoft store, so yeah it came with Windows 8.1 instead of Ubuntu but I was planning on running Fedora on it anyway and see about Windows in a VM rather than dual booting. And I figured by now most quirks would be solved. No. I think it's a better deal than a Macbook Air, it has better out of the box hardware support e.g. wireless and the trackpad. The build quality is not quite as good, it still has this "coil whine" people complain about on the Dell forums, even though it's now "better than it was" when the model was new. It's not that noticeable except in a quiet room. But it's also not flat. In that, on a flat surface as I'm typing, the laptop wobbles. I've never experienced this and I haven't decided if this is a deal killer or not. The firmware, both what came with it and what I upgraded it to, gets confused inexplicably saying it can't find a boot drive. I power off and power back on and then it'll boot. And a GRUB2 bug where the Windows entry doesn't work for some reason [1] so I'm having to use the firmware boot manager, possibly part of why it gets confused from time to time. Maybe the most frustrating thing, is battery life between Fedora and Windows. It's ~15 hours on Windows, and half that running Fedora. I haven't run powertop so maybe it sorts out some optimizations it can do, I'm not sure. In the category of silly statistics: Warm boot (restart) are ~7 seconds on Windows and both cold and warm boots are 12 seconds for Fedora. That's with grub timeout set to 0. Since shutdown on Windows by default is actually a kind of suspend-to-disk (it writes out a hibernation file), cold boots are surprisingly fast. 4 seconds, no kidding, just timed it. I Chris Murphy [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1180787 -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org