On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 10:13:18AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Eventhough I wrote the paper on the Myth of hiding SSIDs in '03 and > provided the method for exposing hidden SSIDs, many wireless > professionals still push this as a valuable tool to protect your > networks. You can't kill some memes. And people want a simple answer to complex problems. > Many automotive companies are pushing for hidden SSIDs in cars to > avoid distracting the driver with connect messages. Hello? What is > the infotainment interface even doing active scans while the vehicle > is moving? There's a simple solution. Make the display such that the driver can't see it when the vehicle is in motion. I don't care if it's as crude as a physical screen that deploys to block the driver's view, or as expensive as two displays--one for the passenger-side, one visible from the driver's seat only when the vehicle is in park; or as elegant as a software-driven restricted view for the driver when not in park (e.g., maybe a polarized screen and software modification to the display). The simple answer is stop the driver from accessing/seeing the display. The method shouldn't be driven by the usual automotive "save a penny" mindset. > The SSID is there to share the air. As I mentioned in an earlier > post, there are only a limited number of USABLE channels, so being > able to have some level of coordination can only be done with > visible SSIDs. I don't know of any WiFi tool that doesn't show all channels, whether with or without SSID. > that said, a bug is a bug and should be squashed. Unless it is a feature... The desision on what to represent a SSID-less channel should be documented. I don't have a problem with showing "?" if you don't know the SSID; just document that's what you're doing. Cheers, -- Dave Ihnat dihnat@xxxxxxxxxx -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org