Re: Hiding SSIDs - Re: wireless is strange

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On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 10:13:18AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> Eventhough I wrote the paper on the Myth of hiding SSIDs in '03 and
> provided the method for exposing hidden SSIDs, many wireless
> professionals still push this as a valuable tool to protect your
> networks.

You can't kill some memes.  And people want a simple answer to complex
problems.

> Many automotive companies are pushing for hidden SSIDs in cars to
> avoid distracting the driver with connect messages.  Hello?  What is
> the infotainment interface even doing active scans while the vehicle
> is moving?

There's a simple solution.  Make the display such that the driver can't
see it when the vehicle is in motion.  I don't care if it's as crude as
a physical screen that deploys to block the driver's view, or as
expensive as two displays--one for the passenger-side, one visible from
the driver's seat only when the vehicle is in park; or as elegant as a
software-driven restricted view for the driver when not in park (e.g.,
maybe a polarized screen and software modification to the display).

The simple answer is stop the driver from accessing/seeing the display.
The method shouldn't be driven by the usual automotive "save a penny"
mindset.

> The SSID is there to share the air.  As I mentioned in an earlier
> post, there are only a limited number of USABLE channels, so being
> able to have some level of coordination can only be done with
> visible SSIDs.

I don't know of any WiFi tool that doesn't show all channels, whether
with or without SSID.

> that said, a bug is a bug and should be squashed.  Unless it is a feature...

The desision on what to represent a SSID-less channel should be documented.
I don't have a problem with showing "?" if you don't know the SSID; just
document that's what you're doing.

Cheers,
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	Dave Ihnat
	dihnat@xxxxxxxxxx
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