Hey Robert.. In the west.. 1st come land rights.. what about the east? or better yet.. shootout at noon! but on a serious note.. yeah.. in some cases wifi can be a royal pain! and sometimes you just want to swamp out everyone else in a 5 mile area!!! On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 12/25/2014 08:18 AM, bruce wrote: >> >> umm.. given that wifi is "free" unregulated in most/all cases.. > > > Disclaimer? I work on IEEE 802 wireless standards. I know them all too > well. I am the chair of the 802.15.9 taskgroup. Look me up at the meeting > Jan 11 in Atlanta... > > Did you know that 802.11b was approved before 802.11a? Why was 802.11b even > done? Why was ODFM not in 802.11b and had to wait until 802.11g? > > Yes, I get 802.11. > > Oh and I was the author of the original papers on the myth of hiding SSIDs > and on how to crack WPA-PSK keys. > >> why wouldn't you be stepping on his channels?? > > > In the old west: first come land rights. > >> or stepping on someone else's channels.. > > > As I wrote over a decade ago, the SSID is there to share the channel. Much > like NETBIOS SCOPE back in the days of large, bridged ethernets (which we > are seeing again in places like stadium wifi! Bounjour makes a mess of those > environments). A polite SSID tells who you are so that those around you can > know where to go to coordinate channel usage. With 11b/g you only > effectively have 3 channels, and with planning you can avoid conflicts. > With a little overlap you can even work 4 channels. > > 11a/n and 11ac have more channels, but shorter range. Speed or range; you > choose. > >> wifi permits numerous packets on same channels,, yes of course there >> might be interference.. but you gets what you pay for! > > > Have you ever tried to set up wifi on a trade floor? A real mess. You have > to get everyone to turn their power settings down so that their signal stays > near their booths and not try to cover the whole show floor. Of course > BEACONS range much further than you can actually use the network. This is > why warflying works. And why you want power values as well as channel. > > And why NOT use the channels to get better performance? Be aware and work > with those around you and everyone gets better performance. > > I just found a little tool, WiFi Radar, that is at least reporting the > channel, which is what I need right now. I would like one that also shows > signal strength. > > I installed kismet, but it does not seem to be working.... > >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >>> >>> On 12/25/2014 07:32 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wed, 2014-12-24 at 20:06 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Radio off!!! By me to save battery... >>>>> >>>>> ARGH!!! >>>> >>>> Been there, done that :-) >>> >>> >>> I am new to the Xfce interface, and in Gnome it shows you have Wifi, but >>> it >>> is off. Xfce does not show anything about WiFi with the radio off. Thus >>> my >>> panic. >>> >>> I do like the simplified WiFi interface; when the radio is on. ;) >>> >>> But I would like a simple diagnostic tool to show me which APs are on >>> which >>> channels. New neighbor. I have to show him that he is stepping on my >>> channels and that he needs to change his..... >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> users mailing list >>> users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> To unsubscribe or change subscription options: >>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>> Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct >>> Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >>> Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > > > -- > users mailing list > users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
