-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/10/2014 06:36 AM, Martín Marqués wrote: > 2014-11-09 20:31 GMT-03:00 Pete Travis <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: >> >> >> Please file a bug[1] against the documentation you're referencing, >> probably the Power Management Guide? That will help the guide >> coordinator ensure that the issue is appropriately addressed. Point 1) >> seems especially relevant, that much should be explicitly clear. > > Will do so. Just wanted to get some impressions here before filing a bug. I see the bug - thanks! > >> fwiw, it seems like hibernation is generally falling out of favor these >> days. I know not everyone has newer systems, but those that do have >> machines that use shockingly little power on suspend, and cold boot >> faster than a resume from hibernate could ever achieve. > > I had a Dell laptop a which I bought about 4 years ago. I almost > always suspended it (no hibernation) and when it got to 14 months > (warrant was over) it died (hard die, like in motherboard chip got > fried). > > The guy in Dell told me not to suspend the laptop, at least not for > long periods of time, which really surprised me. Post hoc, ergo propter hoc? I've had Dell laptops from then, older, newer. Suspend triggered by lid close was the normal disuse state for all, with periodic hard halts due to battery depletion :) Generally, some laptops fail, and some don't - unless there's an explicitly clear impetus, ie prolonged dirty power or physical damage, there's a lot of speculation involved. It seems to be more common with machines equipped with heat-producing dedicated graphics, so I avoid them. > > > About cold boot, well even if the cold boot is fast, there is lots of > things I need to get starting before I start to work (ssh keys, login > to monitoring systems, etc) which make a cold boot extremely tiresome. > >> On point 3, one would hope that resuming from hibernate didn't require >> you to manually edit the grub configs every time :) I'm not well versed >> in the area, but it smells like at least one bug/deficiency from here. > > This looks like a kernel bug, as you can specify a boot partition > using UUID, so why not the one to resume from. > >> [1] >> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Power_Management_Guide/pr01s02.html > > Thanks. > Sure, just because hibernation has 'fallen out of favor' doesn't mean you shouldn't expect it to work :) The kernel devs are good about triage, filing a bug there would be a good start even if the kernel isn't directly at fault (systemd, maybe?) - -- - -- Pete Travis - Fedora Docs Project Leader - 'randomuser' on freenode - immanetize@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUYOrVAAoJEL1wZM0+jj2ZA/4IAKNHkJonhK8HJVepHrnyjFsg rSol2u5LfOOu/X+OZByHr5fZKsUBeI6LuHG046AdcJGACTvi1hDBVCD+ApmuzgHz /mdh/F0Pb0IVx5V7RTSZJHn6Uiq/c0j4rR3HcxmtHkZyp9oFo5HHCB1U6PRheJLN fSf1zUHmoAHvMN3UOy+hXeve6m1ur7q0trAxEizYsNEsDWXSsQlSqfgfRo5qZ3tB 0EjtRrjEq6At+fzHUsyYO+76w+UJZ4i80oZukeCIpANKfmcnmU3AGkdQ4t3oOJEI 1hhB0/dt/DPa4dm7LntpM52zSSpRGIarlPrTVgSrnjQSEtQ0xwtTrrjNEeBODUc= =/tID -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org