I like to bitch a lot on mailinglists, so I thought it's only fair to post a congrats as well. I just installed the 21 beta. For hygeine reasons, I prefer clean installs to upgrades, so I can't comment on the upgrade process, but the install for me went flawlessly. I easily groupinstalled the KDE workstation stuff and am up and running as a KDE box, all in about an hour (with most of that time spent downloading the packages over DSL). Things seem to be smoother than 20 in a number of respects. I connect to my wireless with fewer hassles (in 20, there's some issue with my router's DHCP and NetworkManager that often results in a couple of timeouts before an address was assigned). It *felt* (though I didn't time it( that KDE came up more quickly. This went much more easily for me than the installation of 20. The only glitch I've had so far was that when I first installed KDE, there was an "unnamed" KDE Activity that I couldn't delete, but it disappeared when I rebooted. I'm currently downloading all sorts of software I don't need to see if there are installation conflict issues (which I ran into in 20), but so far, this is great! billo -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org