On Sat, Nov 01, 2014 at 07:27:11PM +0100, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 01.11.2014, Alexander Volovics wrote: > > I don't expect it will do any good to copy the "general" certificates > > to the Mac. > Are there any CA-certificates installed on the Mac which are available > to mutt? If not, it could be the cause of your problem. I will stop investigating this problem at the moment. It has already taken up too much time without any success. I dicovered that mutt was also compiled linked to the latest openssl in a version of Antergos Linux I had installed in a spare partition. Mutt aborted the TLS connection there too. You would think that if you include mutt and openssl it would work more or less "out of the box", but no. As Antergos is Linux I thought it was easier to investigate things there, but no. To begin openssl was implemented quite diferently than in Fedora: no /etc/pki/ and no /etc/pki/tls and no cert.pem -> /etc/pki/ca-trust/extracted/pem/tls-ca-bundle.pem and nothing resembling 'tls-ca-bundle.pem'. All the certificates were just lumped together in /etc/ssl/certs/ including one file 'ca-certificates.crt' also mentioned in the man of muttrc. No docs to explain anything so again you would think that the mutt/openssl combo would have been 'primed' to work together in an obvious way. Nothing I tried 'suggested' by man mutt, man muttrc, man openssl worked. Googling didn't give usefull hints. Asking in the Antergos forum yielded nothing. So I gave up. Then OSX. In the HomeBrew openssl directory there were 2 "pem" files: cert.pem and osx_cert.pem. Trying to use these in some way or other did not work. The few actual Apple OSX certificates or whatever are stored in a format I do not understand, are not easily accessed and I think would have to be 'translated' first to be usefull. So exit Mac. And then I still do not quite understand what the TLS connection is trying to accomplish: 1) verify that smtp.ziggo.nl is actually ziggo and not an 'imposter' 2) encrypt the mail before sending (or a combination of 1 & 2) 3) verify that I am connecting to ziggo and not an imposter. Anyway thank you very much for your time and help. AV -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
