Re: Wrong sorting order in file managers of Fedora 20

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to the list: I think there's still more to this issue than what
already said. In detail, answering both to Sudhir and Roger (thanks
for your quick answers!)

Sudhir Khanger wrote:
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:18 AM, M. Fioretti <mfioretti@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
196511-holidays-1.jpg
1968summer.jpg
1961-july-15-birthday.jpg

Dolphin is sorting those files on basis of the biggest to the smallest
number first. 196511 is the biggest number and 1961 is the smallest. I
couldn't find much about Dolphin's sorting heuristics in the handbook.
Maybe talking to Dolphin guys could help you in someway.

and Roger wrote:

The only way I found was to have folders: a_somename, aa_somename, b_somename, c_somename and so on and in the folders name the images 0001.jpg, to 0009.jpg then 0010.jpg to 0019.jpg and so on, so the folders sort on the first letter and the contained images sort numerically. This way I could re order the slide images by renumbering or putting an a or b in the file name 0009a.jpg and 0009b.jpg... Don't know if that helps but it's the only way... messy but effective

first, to clarify my first post: my __final__ goal is exactly to rename and rearrange those pictures in folders as Roger suggests. The problem is just that the "wrong" name sorting rule used here makes it very difficult and slow to spot what pictures should go in the same folders. Being pictures, I can realize that 1935-grandma-wedding.jpg and 19350530-aunt-jane.jpg should go in the same folder only by **looking** at them. Because there is no other way to spot that the second file is a picture of great-aunt Jane taken just at her sister's wedding. But if there are 100 other pictures named 1958-something.jpg displayed in between, I'll
never see the first two close to each other.

Now yes, this happens because dolphin works just like Sudhir described. Thanks for realizing it, I can see it now (can you tell me the exact page/URL/place where
you found that description, please?).

But I'd still stick here for explanations and fixes because this is NOT a Dolphin or KDE problem. Even Nemo, for example, does the same thing. While the command line works as expected. I do get all the files whose name starts with 1935 listed one
after the other, no matter what the rest of the filename looks like.

So why the graphical programs sort differently than the ls command? Is there really no way to make any of them behave the same as ls? This seems something tied to all
those COLLATE and related variables, but what?

Thanks,
Marco



Fact is, the
folder named . Being pictures, I can only
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